Bike Friday New World Tourist – Part 4

28 01 2009
Bike Friday did a great job on the white paint...

Bike Friday did a great job on the white paint...

Sorry for the delay in posting a NWT ride report.  I wanted to get some more miles on this bike before I commented.  Although the weather has not been ideal I have been out and about.  Sadly the minty freshness of this bike is somewhat tarnished by road grime, but that’s a price I’m willing to pay to keep the blog posts flowing…hahaha!

I’m a member of the Bike Friday Yak List and I’ve read lots of NWT owner comments that the New World Tourist rides just like full sized touring bike.  I figured that must be a bit of an exaggeration since a 20″ wheeled folding bike has to be different than a 26″/700c wheeled bike.  Well I must say I see where they are coming from.  Other than having slightly faster handling and feeling bumps a little bit more the NWT fits and rides a lot like my Surly Long Haul Trucker.  I find that pretty amazing.

Speaking of amazing I must give Bike Friday credit for dialing in the fit on this bike for me so well.  All they had to go on were some measurements from my Tikit as well as some general riding preferences.  I just wanted to make sure we were in the ballpark and I figured I’d do the rest once I got the bike.  To my surprise the bike fit me like a glove right down to having a long TT and a short stem.  I haven’t had to adjust a thing – sweet!

One of the reasons I think the NWT and the Tikit ride so well when compared to other folding bikes is that Bike Friday allows you to customize your frame to fit you.  This is more than just pushing your seat back and adding a longer stem to make a small bike fit a large person.  Anyone who has ridden a bike like that will agree the feeling of having your weight too far over the front wheel is not pleasant nor confidence inspiring.  The effective TT on my  NWT is around 59cm which allows me to keep my weight well back of the bars and allows the bike to handle very pleasantly.

Between the handling and the fit I’m really looking forward to doing some touring on this bike.

The NWT feels a lot like my Surly LHT...
The NWT feels a lot like my Surly LHT…

The NWT is a lot stiffer than I expected.  I knew it would be a stronger frame than my Tikit, but I’m very happy how solid this bike feels. Even when I’m out of the saddle hammering to beat a light or crank my way up a steep hill the frame just takes the punishment and drives the bike forward.  The stem/bars in particular are rigid which gives you lots of confidence bombing down hill at high speed.  Keep in mind I have not tried it fully loaded so l my impressions are of an unloaded bike.

In terms of handling the NWT’s high speed manners are excellent.  A little faster than my Surly LHT, but not a great deal.  I was bombing down a steep bridge with a heavily gusting crosswind and the NWT was easy to keep on line.  I suspect that a fully loaded NWT will descend mountain passes very confidently with some front panniers slowing down the steering quite a lot.  The bike is a real pleasure to ride at slow speeds since it’s quite maneuverable and slowing to a crawl & track stands are easy.

The bike accelerates well both in the saddle and standing on the pedals.  Since my foot was feeling good and the bike responded well to hard sprints I found myself racing between lights.  I eventually had to remind myself this is a touring bike made for cruising not criterium racing!  The NWT climbed competently [although it reminds you it's not a featherweight road bike] when the road turned uphill.  I enjoy climbing on tour so I just settle into my comfy cockpit and churn away at the pedals while the scenery rolls by.

The Nexus 8 twist shifter mounted at the right bar end position is a new configuration for me.  I found it intuitive to use and easy to grab without looking.  I do prefer a true bar end shifter so I’ll be replacing it with a JTEK Nexus 8 bar end shifter, however I have to say it if you are thinking of mounting a twist shifter on a drop bar bike this is not a bad way to go.  I’ve been using bar end shifters for years so perhaps if I stuck with the twist shifter longer I might grow to like it more.  The Nexus 8 is as much a pleasure to use as the other two Shimano IGH I’ve got running.

My earlier post about the NWT gearing closed noting you can do all the online gear calculation you want, but ultimately the real test is on the road.  After putting the NWT through its paces I’ve come to the conclusion the 39T x 16T is great for an unloaded bike, but too high for touring.  I didn’t even bother using the 53T chain ring as I wasn’t spinning out one of the longer steeper hills in town – although it must be said I’m not a kamikaze descender.  The easy way to lower the gearing is to swap in a bigger Nexus 8 cog as they run $8 each at full retail.  I’ll play with this and post something when I’ve got it dialed in.

...slow speed handling is excellent.
…slow speed handling is excellent.

Just a few random component notes:

  • NRG Slabalanche BMX pedals are great on this bike
  • Brooks B-17 is comfy out of the box like all my other Brooks saddles
  • I threw on some salmon coloured Koolstop brake pads
  • the Tektro drop bar v-brake levers and Shimano v-brakes stop the bike silent and with authority using just two fingers on the levers. I’ve been finding the hood position of the Tektro levers a bit uncomfortable.  I need to see if it’s the angle they are sitting at or if it’s the unpadded gloves I’m wearing.  This seems a bit odd as I have some identical Cane Creek branded levers I’ve enjoyed on another bike.
  • the Bike Friday fenders work and are easy to install with one bolt each, but I’m a fan of full coverage fenders so I’m going to see if I can find a set I like and try them out.
  • The Schwalbe Marathons are solid rugged touring tires, but they are heavy and not so fast.  I’m going to try and get a pair of Greenspeed Scorchers in the 40mm-406 [20"] size to try out since they have treated me well on my Tikit.

That’s it for now.  I’ll be getting the NWT out every chance I have to ride dry roads, but that may not be too often until March rolls around.  Hopefully I’ll be able to get this bike out for an early weekend tour in the mountains and post my Part 5 Touring Review sooner rather than later.


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28 01 2009
bikefridaywalter

Niiiice, Vik! I can’t wait to see the review on the Jtek thingamadoo. I’d like to use those in the shop if they work out for you.

You might check out Planet Bike for fenders. They’re at least MORE full coverage, but a PITA to take on and off relative to ours. We’ve optimized ours for packing with a little compromise in terms of coverage, as you’re well aware of.

The only difference between the Cane Creek/Tektro levers (if in both cases we’re talking about the v-brake compatible models– the road versions ARE different up close though perhaps not at a glance) is the hood. Not the shape of it either. Made in the same factory even. Crazy, huh? Prolly angle.

So when’s work going to let you out to go do some touring? :D

28 01 2009
thelazyrando

I’ll try the PB fenders and I’m not panning the BF fenders they are clearly a good design for the frequent traveller.

My Cane Creek are also the v-brake type. I’ll play around with it.

1 02 2009
Alex

Sounds decent, however the question that everyone wants to know, can you fit an xtracycle to it?

12 09 2009
Sage

Have you tried to bring your NWT on buses and trains? If so, do you feel it is more of a hassle to fold versus the tikit?

12 09 2009
thelazyrando

Sage,

I haven’t tried it, but frankly I don’t need to to assure you taking the Tikit on a train or bus is going to be 20 times easier. The whole point of the Tikit is to facilitate commuter cycling and so it folds in a couple seconds and unfolds just as fast. The NWT is a great bike, but it’s a touring bike designed to be packed in a suitcase a couple times on a trip. Now if you compare a NWT to a full size bike the NWT is 20 times easier to take on a train or bus – so it’s all relative.

25 10 2011
Deepak Rao

Hi Vik,

Been researching this bike a lot, and read all your posts. Wife and I have LHTs but find that we would take bikes more often if we had folders. Currently we ride in Europe once a year, but we visit more, and sometimes just find carrying the Surlys a pain. Have a couple of questions. Do you find such a short stem a problem with regard to handling? Would I be able to fit our existing Tubus Cargo racks? I know I would need some extenders, but are they easy to source.

Thanks

Deepak

26 10 2011
thelazyrando

@Deepak – the stem on my NWT is similar in length to the one on my LHT so it’s not a problem. I had BF build my NWT based on the sizing from my LHT so they ride very similarly. BF will build you a NWT in any size/configuration you like so just let them know what you want and they make it happen.

You can most likely mount that Tubus rack on your NWT. I can’t see why not, but I also don’t want to say yes 100% without having ever tried it. If you plan to travel with your NWT you may want to buy the BF folding rear rack as it packs flat simplifying transport.

27 10 2011
Deepak Rao

Thanks Vik. Going with either the stock Pocket Companions, or the NWTs. Undecided. Confirmed [on the net as well as with BF] that I can use the Tubus with longer mounting rods. How bad/good do you think the twist shifters of the PC are? Never used twist shifters, only brifters and bar ends till now.

27 10 2011
thelazyrando

@Deepak – I’m sure they are fine or BF wouldn’t use them. I don’t love gripshifters in general so I’d probably swap them out, but that’s just a preferential thing.

2 11 2011
Deepak Rao

Thanks Vik. Decided on the NWTs. Just need to settle the bar issue. Looking for a 26mm compact bar that they will be able to split. Saw in another post that you have the Origin 8 bars. Are they split?

2 11 2011
thelazyrando

@Deepak…I don’t think my NWT bars are split as I have a 2 bolt ahead set stem. You’ll love the NWTs – send me pics when you get them back to India.

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